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tao tao chinese ATV problem
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Posted: 09/28/09 08:40 PM
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rgrimmer: I have a tao tao 110. I'm not getting fire to the plug. Kill switch is on and the fuse is good. What should I check first?
Thanks in advance
I'm confused. Kill switch is on? I would interpret that to mean the engine is killed, so you wouldn't get spark. You must have meant the kill switches (all of them) were off.
Check out the following link:
Trouble shooting kill switch issues
This is a good place to start, though I think there's more that can be measured before just blindly changing stuff like they suggest. But is is a good place to start.
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rgrimmer
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Posted: 09/29/09 04:29 AM
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Thanks, for the print. It ended up being the cdi box. It was the remote part of the box and I didn't even receive one when I got the atv. I just unpluged the box. The only thing that is different is we have to turn it off with the handle bar kill switch and make sure with the key also. I can live with this.
Thank you very much again, Randy
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Posted: 09/29/09 07:28 AM
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rgrimmer: Thanks, for the print. It ended up being the cdi box. It was the remote part of the box and I didn't even receive one when I got the atv. I just unpluged the box. The only thing that is different is we have to turn it off with the handle bar kill switch and make sure with the key also. I can live with this.
Thank you very much again, Randy
Randy, I think the module you unplugged is the remote start/stop receiver and not the CDI. The CDI is up toward the front of the quad and has a five pin connector (usually green, but not always). The remote module is one on the four common kill switches (all wired up together) since the remote has to have the ability to shut down the engine via a radio link. The other kill switches are:
1) one pole of the two pole ignition switch 2) the tether pull cord kill switch 3) Left handle bar kill switch
Unplugging the remote module does remove the ability to shut down the engine with the ignition switch. You can fix that by adding a jumper wire on the remote module connector. I don't know exactly which pins these are but I'm sure with a little investigation we could find out. There is nothing wrong with leaving it the way it is, and just get used to shutting the engine down with the handlebar kill switch.
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Posted: 10/03/09 05:17 PM
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Hello to all this is a chinese dealer and i will help as much and as often as time allows. first i will say this about the products i sell. they are cheaper than most name brands and are targeted mostly for young riders. second we do all we can to upgrade our atvs as to be as truoble free as possible as tightening bolts replacing plastic lines,installing a good grade oil pryor to purchase and putting in a better batterie. i have been reading all these threads about problems and most sound familiar and some scheptism is to be expected. this is my solution. we sale entroductorie products,we intern hope to upgrade our customers to name brand. we do not sale products that have not been tested and have to be assembled by the customer. i do not recomend to anyone that you by an atv or dirt bike to be shipped and assembled no matter how much you save. i had the pleasure of bailing out several customers from an online dealer who thought they were getting a good deal. one his atv came shipped with a broke carb, out of the box,another recieved his with 3 rear wheels and 1 front . buyer beware.i am open to question.
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Posted: 10/03/09 05:27 PM
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check tether safty,second alot of atvs have safty to break,must be pulled back on lever to fire,check wire to break handle. second goto cdi, it could be bad and must be replaced. third try stator. check all connection before you spend alot of money. coming from china the wires are of low grade and we find not enough current is being drawed for positive on battery, use a stronger wire or cut and connect directly to battery, let me know.
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Posted: 10/07/09 04:17 PM
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i DO NOT MEAN TO AGGRIVATE ANYONE HERE BUT, I DRIVE A 08 HONDA 420 4X4 MY SON IS 8 AND HAS BEEN RIDING A TAO TAO 110 UTILITY FOR 3 YEARS . WE HAVE SOME PROBLEMS BUT LIMITED. I WOULD IN NO SHAPE WAY OR FORM BUY ONE FOR ME BUT TO TEACH MY SON HOW TO RIDE IT HAS BEEN PERFECT, I MEAN REALLY IT IS A DISPOSABLE BIKE PRETTY MUCH , USE IT AS A STEPPING STONE , NOT A LONG LASTING BIKE. HE WILL BE MOVING TO A RECON 250 SOON . RIDE RED
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Posted: 11/03/09 02:44 PM
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excuse me, but my buddies foreman has been in the shop four times in two years and my polaris has never been down except for a torn cv boot since 2003 so watch it hater
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Posted: 11/03/09 07:27 PM
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sounds like the float in the carb is stuck or the needle seat is bad or has dirt in it. your gonna have to take carb apart to find and fix problem, gas overflowed into intake and filled cylinder which leaked past piston and into crankcase. when you fix carb change oil run a few minutes then change it again to make sure you get all the gas out or your engine will likely be damaged. if it doesn't have one consider installing a inline fuel filter between tank and carb should stop it from recurring
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wolf1
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Posted: 11/06/09 09:03 PM
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First of all, unless you are selling only the 110cc small frame chinese atv's then you are not selling only to young riders.
all of the dealers offer 125cc all the way up to 250cc and some higher. 250 cc is not for a small child. and even the 125cc dirt bikes are not suggested for small riders. they are very hard to control mainly because of poor tire traction due to cheap knobbed tires and a low gear box that makes it hard for young riders to maintain throttle in lower gears.
the chinese atv's are cheaper. and at my shop i have seen them fall apart while being ridden carefully on a flat grassy front yard at low speeds.
i purchased two of these myself to test and a 125cc dirtbike, with the throttle regulated so that it barely will top 10 miles an hour the frame still broke, the chains still came off and locked into the rear sprocket. the motor mounts still tore loose from the frame, and the carburetor caps still came off on their own causing it to go full throttle unexpectedly and uncontrollably. the brake calipers still fell off leaving the rider suddenly with no brakes.
i have seen just as many defects from those purchased from dealers as i have seen from those purchasing them from a shipper.
the chinese atv's are JUNK pure and simple.
the danger of the rider getting injured is very high on these machines and more times than not a definate.
PLEASE DO NOT ENDANGER YOUR "YOUNG RIDER" BY PUTTING THEM ON THESE POORLY CONTRUCTED POT METAL FRAMED ATV'S they WILL get injured!!!
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wolf1
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Posted: 11/06/09 09:04 PM
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i see... you wont even ride what you sell, and with good reason... life is just too precious.
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66jaguar
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Posted: 11/09/09 12:30 PM
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I have been reading this thread for all the stories and problems and concerns since I had purchased a Tao Tao 250cc for myself and a Tao Tao 110 cc for my 7 year old before finding this Forum.
For owning them 3 months and riding the hell out of them I have to say my problems have been minor. I assembled the 110 and bought the 250cc already assembled from a local dealer. First off in my experiances use lock tite on every bolt you can before riding because the bolts will come loose. Forget the remote on the 110 for it will short out as soon as you go through water and kill the engine. I disconnected the remote box and siren on the 110 and rewired it to shut off with the key still. I also changed the 14 tooth front sprocket to a 12 tooth for better hill climbing.I also added a fuel shutoff valve for small engines and replaced the cheap fuel filter that started leaking from the tank. I am in the process of installing front brakes on the 110.I replaced the straps on the nerf bars also with a heaver guage nylon I bought in a 20 yard roll off E-Bay. ($15.00) Other then that the 110 cc has just run and run giving me not really any other problems. We mostly trail ride and pull hills and surprisingly it seems to perform well.
The 250 cc seems to run very well also. I have modified a few things. Again I removed bolts and used red 271 Locktite on everything. I added a chain tensioner $9.99 off E-Bay. I replaced the bouncy rear shock to a shock off a Yamaha Banshee. I replaced both front shocks to a Chinese version air adjustable shocks. These improved my ride dramatically. I cut off the stock muffler and installed a stock Yamaha muffler off a YZF450 quad (used take off again from E-Bay $19.95) and removed the spark arrester insert and put in a performance spark arrester insert with out the baffles. Nice deep sound and more power.Also since the frame is cheaper I noticed my foot pegs tended to bend downward (I weigh 180 lbs)I bent them back up and ended up welding in a cross bar from inside of the pegs across the frame for reinforcement. It has been fine since. Other then that my 250 has performed well.
My wife I bought a ATV-K006 150cc Chinese from a dealer in LA for $799.00 automatic(I'll have to look up the brand) Iv'e again had to lock tite bolts but the frame is much larger and stronger then my Tao Tao. It seems to be much sturdier constructed and has a Heinsim? engine. I've done nothing to it. It is a very nice riding and well built Chinese ATV.It also came with a real owners and parts manuel which the Tao Tao's are lacking
I think for the folks that are not mechanically adapt these are probably not for you. But for the price versus a new Honda I am very happy with mine. Of course more time will tell but I don't mind wrenching on them here and there. As for my childs safety- How safe is ATV riding anyway? The 110 has been working out fine for what we are doing with them. Yesterdays 4 hour trail ride definitely put them through the test. Not everybody can afford Hondas. I've owned a YZ250 and a Kawasaki 200 before and everytime something broke it cost me an arm and a leg. It didn't help much when my Stepson would hit a rut or do something wrong and jump off the bike. At $5000.00 new I cringed everytime he crashed it. At least with the Chinese ATV's parts are cheap and I've had no trouble via the internet obtaining replacements.
My two cents worth Ken
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